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Interview with Pat Krafcik

Recent Teaching History
Russia; 2000-1, 1998-99; 1996-97; Spring 1996
Grave Matters: The Phenomenon of Death and Dying; Spring 2000
Crescent, Cross and Cupoloa: Islan and Christianity of the East and West; Fall 1999-Winter 2000
Phoenix Rising: East Central Europe Fall 1997- Winter 1998
In the Enchanted Kingdom: Folk Narratives and Epics; Spring 1998
Literature, Values, and Social Change; 1995-96

Recent and Current Areas of Interest

Factors besides my own interests that have helped to shape my thinking about what the center of my work is are input from students, responses from students, my observations of what interests students and, most importantly, what troubles students. And that's the most exciting thing because when something troubles us we are often strongly moved to explore it and grapple with it. Both in the context of the Russia Program and in my work on East Central Europe, I have discovered that the students are extremely intrigued by culture, particularly by spiritual culture and how it influences other aspects of culture and the society. In the Russian context spiritual culture has been supremely instrumental in shaping all other aspects of culture, politics, and national identity. I am interested in this because it so strong and distinctive in Russia and Eastern Europe.
A concrete example of how this works: When we study nineteenth-century Russian Literature--Gogol, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Turgenev--there is no way to understand these writers and their impact unless one understands the spiritual foundation of their work, what fuelled them spiritually. When we explore this, we can begin to grasp what is behind Gogol's fantastical humor, Dostoyevsky's probing soul, Tolstoy's philosophy of history and human interaction. Further, we can also begin to understand significant and often overlooked aspects of those forces which motivated nineteenth- and twentieth-century Russian revolutionaries, as well as how Marxism in the Soviet Union was embraced as a kind of religion, adapting various features of earlier religious culture in Russia--the icons, the incense, the saint's body preserved uncorrupted under glass.

In short, as we read history and literature we must examine spiritual history as well. At the same time, students are most often involved in their own kinds of spiritual searches. Ideas from our readings and from the students' contemplation meet and mix in class papers, seminars, and program activities. This intersection of spiritual, cultural, literary, and personal issues is frequently the center of my work with my students, and always proves to be exciting and nourishing for us all.

Are there particular authors/artists/thinkers whose work you interested and which you often ask students to examine?

The great nineteenth-century Russian writers are my favorite source of inspiration, and since they are philosophers who speak to many different groups, on many different levels, about many different things, I love to find ways to bring them into programs other than the Russia Program. Many twentieth-century Russian writers like Evgenij Zamjatin in We and Mikhail Bulgakov in The Master and Margarita are also magnificent in exposing how spiritual, social, and political phenomena intersect in the lives of people and societies. The Master and Margarita, describing supernatural and demonic events in a Moscow which has become Satan's playground after the Russian Revolution, is, for example, a powerful novel to bring to any program that takes seriously the question of good and evil. Outside of the Russian sphere another really important writer/philosopher for our century is the Czech Vaclav Havel. For those of us who are concerned about Eastern Europe he is a brilliant thinker. Kundera is also an important writer for thinking allowing us to explore beneath the surface of an individual's psyche, particularly when that individual is under stress.

Are there specific areas of interest or issues you want to work with students on in the current year?

I generally try to encourage students to do work within programs if at all possible. Here they have built-in guidelines and, especially, a community with whom to seminar and learn. Plus, there are often ways within the context of programs (not just in contracts) for students to set off and explore particular areas of personal interest--through group projects and research papers. Individual contracts can become rather lonely endeavors and, I believe, should be undertaken only by advanced students who are vitally interested in something they can't find in any programs and who have very definite ideas about how to approach their individual study and work.
I have done several individual contracts with students in my nine years here. When I am teaching in the Russia Program, however, my time is greatly limited since I take on teaching language as well as engaging in the rigorous work of lectures and seminars. In an off-year for the Russia Program, if a student came to me with a strong interest in exploring a Russian writer or some other aspect of Russian or East European culture, I would be willing to consider working on that. I have also worked with students with a strong interest in religious or spiritual issues, but as with all students who contact me concerning contracts, I expect that they come with really well developed ideas and projects. Contracts are ways for both of us to learn, but the bulk of responsibility in undertaking and completing the contract rests on the shoulders of mature students.

Specific Skills, Competence, Techniques:

Teaching the Russian language is a major skill that bring to my work here. I also enjoy working with students on writing in my programs. I think that students find intriguing and empowering the notion that pieces of writing--their own, as well as the works of others whom they read for seminar--are documents with an agenda. A piece of writing is designed to affect its readers, to achieve some end. I encourage students to approach every piece of writing with a kind of critical distance that allows us to make an intelligent assessment of the text. I want students to be able both to respond to a text (books, films, and other media) emotionally and to maintain some intelligent critical distance from it. This is an enormously crucial skill to develop for life--reading and thinking intelligently.
With writing I do different things. In the fall and winter terms of the Russia Program, for instance, we give students difficult questions to answer in writing, questions that force them to synthesize a variety of materials from different sources. We urge them to ask questions out of which a thesis might be formulated. This past term in my group contract where I had freshmen and transfer students, we studied, with the direct help of a writing tutor, three different modes of writing--description, comparison and contrast, and finally argument. This worked well to give the students specific methods to work on in connection with a definite content from the program material itself. Students came out of that work with a sense of accomplishment. We faculty often discuss various approaches to writing and teaching writing, and I am always open to learning more to share with my students.

What are key qualities you look for in student work? What techniques do you use to assess their work? How do you help students assess their work?

Student work comes across in two forms to faculty, oral communication in seminar and presentations and written work, and most faculty assess both kinds. For me, good student work is work that shows clear thinking, substantial thinking. It is also work that demonstrates an attempt on the part of the presenter or writer to be literate. I respect a speaker or writer who cares about genuine communication with a listener or reader. A well thought-out statement or oral presentation, a well considered paper--these, when bolstered by clarity and proofing--I assess highly. When I say this I don't mean that there is always some absolute right or wrong way to do things, or that I accept the "right" and reject the "wrong." Students may formulate an argument that is really convincing, substantial, supported with evidence. It may not be the argument I usually adhere to or think is strongest, but through it they might teach their peers and me something new. This is immensely exciting! It is what ground breaking is all about.
What I am look for, then, are signs of thought, mental activity, signs of intelligent life. In seminar, I am not impressed with a student who talks continuously about nothing, but rather with a quiet student who occasionally comes up with an intelligent question or an observation that has been bothering him or her. This is what fuels our teaching and learning in seminar. It is the life of the mind that is important to me. When I say mind I do not mean just the intellect, of course, but the spirit, the whole thinking mechanism. And I consider that student work is good, or is on the way to being good, when I see evidence of thought at work. I try to help students recognize their potential success by reading student work carefully and trying to recognize something in that paper or presentation which displays good thinking. I try to help students recognize these moments, too.

Teaching Style:How would you characterize yourself as a teacher?

I tend to get excited and passionate about the material that I am working with, whether in the Russia Program or in other programs in which I've taught. I suspect that sometimes I'm so passionate about the material that I assume others feel the same way and will work appropriately, in a manner that corresponds to the excitement and passion generated by the material. And actually most students are responsive to these feelings. I try to support students by creating an environment of trust, perhaps in a sense an enchanted environment, an environment in which we experience learning, working together, and growing as an exciting adventure. Once that environment is created, I feel that we are making progress, and I think that students can then handle the demands of the material.

What types of students tend to do well with you?

Students who get excited and passionate about the work they are engaged in usually are the ones who tend to do well with me, and most students have the potential for that. The majority of students who come to Evergreen come because they really want to be here. They want to explore. Somewhere in their lives they have had an inkling that this is a very exciting thing to do, that it is, in fact, essential for life itself, and I want to work from that vision. I like to see students take the interest and passion that we feel and turn it into some sort of productive work. Sometimes it is not exactly the productive work I had in mind for them, but it is something else that shows signs of intellectual activity and something they have thrown their heart into.

What types of students have a hard time with you?

It is the rare student who doesn't find something in the learning environment here that is exciting. The few students I have encountered who cannot relate to our adventure here are often preoccupied with other tough issues in their lives that need resolution. Students who may feel the excitement of the program but somehow can't sink their teeth into our work are also sometimes difficult to deal with. I always hope the best for my students as people, whether they stay with me, go to other programs, or leave school to tackle other tasks.

What do your student evaluations say about the way you come across to students?

Students often say that they feel I love what I am doing and that this love is infectious. They appreciate that I have an interest in their minds and lives. They are grateful to me and to any faculty who is willing to read their papers carefully and provide helpful feedback. Students feel I have a pretty good balance in seminar between intervention and respecting their turf. They like the fact that I strive to create a relaxed, comfortable, and non-threatening atmosphere in seminar where students aren't afraid to take risks. This does not mean that my seminars are "easy" or undemanding. It's just that in the process of enjoying our time together, we don't notice that a great deal is demanded and is happening.

Expectations about Contracts, Internships, and Evaluations
What qualities do you look for in a student who comes to you for work in a contract?

I look for both enthusiasm and intelligence in students. I must see evidence of serious thought, commitment, and self-discipline, since the successful work of the contract depends largely on the student's ability to work hard and stay focused.

What information do you want to see when a person comes to look for a contract?

I prefer a specific proposal with a substantive question or questions to be pursued, a book list, and some sense of how the students want to allocate their time. I look very carefully at the proposal for specific ideas and methods of approach to the work at hand. The more of all this that the proposal shows the more likely I am to want to work with the student. As I've mentioned before, I think contracts are best undertaken by advanced students who are unable to find a place to pursue their work in an existing program and are really self-motivated to do their contract.


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